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Asked: June 18, 20252025-06-18T20:00:49+00:00 2025-06-18T20:00:49+00:00In: Field Operator Refinery

Max temperature at CDU fired heater outler

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      2026-03-22T09:22:41+00:00Added an answer on March 22, 2026 at 9:22 am

      I am new to Refining.

      I intend to process Egina crude (API 27.3) in my CDU. I want to maximize diesel yield. To reach this goal, I intend to increase the temperature at the outlet of the fired heater to the maximum.

      What maximum temperature do you think I could go without coking?

      The crude assay is here:

      https://ts.totalenergies.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/EGINA.pdf

      Thanks in advance

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      2026-03-22T09:25:40+00:00Added an answer on March 22, 2026 at 9:25 am

      1. Typical CDU Furnace Outlet Temperature (COT)
      Normal operating range: 340–370°C
      Some units push to: 350–380°C

      👉 This is the industry “safe zone” for atmospheric CDU.

      ⚠️ 2. Absolute Upper Limit (Before Cracking/Coking)

      Once you go beyond design:

      Around ~380°C+ → thermal cracking starts increasing
      Above ~400°C → serious coking risk
      Absolute extreme (rare, short-term): ~390–400°C max

      Why?

      Crude components (resins/asphaltenes) thermally decompose
      Coke forms inside furnace tubes → pressure drop ↑ → tube hot spots → failure risk
      Refiners avoid this deliberately (this is why VDU exists instead of higher CDU temp)
      🧠 3. Key Insight (Important for You)

      You cannot maximize diesel by just increasing temperature.

      Because:

      Higher temperature → more cracking → gas + naphtha, NOT diesel
      Diesel yield depends more on:
      Cut point optimization
      Flash zone conditions
      Reflux/pumparound
      Stripping efficiency

      👉 Overheating actually reduces diesel selectivity

      ⚙️ 4. What Controls Your REAL Temperature Limit

      Your actual max is NOT a fixed number—it depends on:

      ✅ Crude type (Egina specifics)
      Medium crude → moderate coking tendency
      Likely safe ceiling: ~365–375°C
      ✅ Furnace design
      Coil metallurgy
      Heat flux (critical)
      Residence time
      ✅ Velocity & steam injection
      Higher velocity → less coke
      Steam dilution → reduces partial pressure
      ✅ Run length target
      1–2 years run → conservative temp
      Short campaign → you can push slightly higher
      📊 5. Practical Recommendation (For Your Goal: Max Diesel)
      🔹 Safe operation range:

      👉 350–370°C (optimal)
      👉 370–375°C (aggressive but still controlled)

      🔹 Avoid:

      ❌ >380°C continuous operation
      ❌ Trying to “force vaporization” of heavy ends

      💡 6. Better Ways to Increase Diesel Yield (Instead of Temp)

      If your goal is diesel maximization, do this:

      Increase overflash (3–5%)
      Optimize cut point (AGO endpoint)
      Improve side stripper steam
      Adjust flash zone pressure (slightly lower)
      Optimize pumparound heat removal

      👉 These give more diesel without coke risk

      🧾 Final Answer

      👉 For Egina crude in CDU:

      Recommended max: ~370°C
      Aggressive upper limit: ~375°C
      Do NOT exceed: ~380°C (high coking risk)

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